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« on: 06, January, 2011, 04:17:15 PM » |
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I believe a few people will be doing both of these events. I'm currently doing a training program with NRG that suits me fine. I'm not an elite athlete but I'm worried about what to do to get ready for TNF100 after 6Ft.
Does anyone have a training plan or ideas for those 'in between' weeks?
I'll probably do the Canberra 50km but don't have any other plans. I guess a couple of Fatass Beyond The Black Stumps wouldn't hurt either. Well I mean they'd HURT, just not as much as NOT doing them and turning up to the start........
cheers for any contributions
Adam
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Adam
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« Reply #1 on: 16, January, 2011, 08:52:06 PM » |
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142 views so far and no one has an opinion?
Tell you what, I'll discuss it with a few people in my running club and post anything I find out.....
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Clare
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« Reply #2 on: 05, February, 2011, 07:59:17 PM » |
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Hi Adam
I'm a NF100 virgin but am planning the same as you: 6 foot track and Canberra 50km, then try to do a 7 hour run somewhere in between/after. Whilst the off road runs would be good training physically, I'm afraid they'll scare me too much mentally :-)
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Adrian
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« Reply #4 on: 02, March, 2011, 04:33:53 PM » |
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Adam & Clare,
As first timers it seems scary, but you will be fine, 6ft is the ultimate make sure you enjoy your day the finish is amazing. Coming down the hill to the crowd will give you goose bumps and might even leave you with wet eyes, did the double last year highly recommened, only running NF100 this year, must start training only 10 weeks to go have fun!!!
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Jeff
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« Reply #6 on: 03, March, 2011, 08:38:13 PM » |
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Ack, how hillarious!
Didn't realize you and Kaos on the other forum are one and the same. Sorry for referring you to your own training plan.
I wouldn't mind joining up with you guys for at least one of the runs on the course later in March, and probably the long one on the last weekend of April.
For most of April I'll be away on a family holiday – which will make training an interesting juggle. I can see delicate spousal negotiations and fun overseas race opportunities in my immediate future!
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Adam
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« Reply #7 on: 03, March, 2011, 08:45:46 PM » |
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no worries, my tentacles spread far and wide over zee interwebz......
yep that long one should be fun, bring your head torch!
Cheers
Adam
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Paul
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« Reply #8 on: 07, March, 2011, 03:29:48 PM » |
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no worries, my tentacles spread far and wide over zee interwebz......
yep that long one should be fun, bring your head torch!
Cheers
Adam
I dont normally blog but when I saw your LSD schedule I thought i better drop you a line, you have a 60km run planned for the 30th, thats 14days out from NF100 race day, and then you have a 30km planned with 7 days to go!!
Im not sure why your training but if you want to be fresh and at your best for the NF 100? mate this is all wrong.
Im not making any assumptions that i know any better or that i know what suits you as a runner but I have done a few 100kms including all three previous NF100s, Im happy to give you some pointers, |
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Adam
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« Reply #9 on: 07, March, 2011, 05:27:27 PM » |
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I'll be the first to acknowledge that I have no experience with longer events, apart from walking Trailwalker last year. But the program was put together by someone whom I respect highly.
I'd welcome any input you have on the program, it isn't completely set in stone yet! Thanks Paul.
cheers
Adam
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Adam
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« Reply #10 on: 08, March, 2011, 10:08:16 AM » |
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OK, I had a chance to talk to the trainer last night, and here's some of the the reasoning for scheduling things this way.
We can't move the date of the Mt Solitary mara which will be the most difficult event. The Roseville to Hornsby and back will probably cost a similar amount of energy, but it will be slow and partly at night. Trainer figures it will be good for us to face something like this one with tired legs, and if things go well, I'd tend to agree. The 30km taper run might sound a bit harsh, but we've been doing over 30km on Saturdays for some time now, and whilst not easy, it's getting easier. Three months ago I would have agreed it's not much of a taper, but I can't see much harm now.
I did find after a long taper that I felt mentally underprepared, but again, I don't have much experience.
cheers
Adam
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Paul
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« Reply #11 on: 08, March, 2011, 10:13:32 AM » |
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And Im not claiming a position of expereince either, its purely from trial and error that you really learn the smarts with the long distances. The program and what your doing with NRG is fine as collectivley the quantity of kms and the variety of training looks good, whats funny is where your longest runs are placed.
The one aspect of preparation that is cruical for any event is the taper. So as the event gets closer the reduction in number of training sessions and quantity of Kms in your week.
So for example with a PB at North face100 2011 as my goal I was also looking at lead up races as preparation for north face100, and while the mt solitary 45km looks like a really suitable run for training, I think its just to close to NF100, I could go up there with the intention of doing Mt solitary nice and easy but the reality is its very hard to pace yourself at a speed slower than what your capable of, especially when you gety caught up in the event like i do. Im not saying i wont end up doing Mt Solitary anyway as the running wild group are staging it and its bound to be an excellent event, but the fact is if you really wan to be at your best you need to think about recovery time.
One of the main reasons why runners dont taper properly is coz there is to many good reasons to keep training, too many super events on the calender and runners by definition just love running so tapering is just not what you want to do!! its really hard to emit the control required to rest and recover because also after 3 or four months of structuring your whole weeks routine around training, thrashing out the kms, Eating, hydrating, and sleeping just to do more training, its hard to stop!
Its also very har to detect that your tired because you have been running around on tired legs for so long you forget what freash legs should really feel like. So take your 60km run on the 30th for instance, The undeniable fact is it will take your body six weeks to fully recover from running 60kms. There is no doubt your conditioned and you will be able to handle it better than others but as a result of flogging yourself for potientally 7hrs plus 14 days prior you will not be peaking at NF100.
By all means do a 60km run, do 2 or 3 of them but have them all done by mid april.
The other endurance aspect id mention is you should consider doing some more back to back long ones, like a 40km on a saturday followed by a 30km run on a sunday. This is a practiced training method that improves your endurance without putting you and your body through the exhausting efforts of longer runs, e.g. running 60 or 70kms in one hit.
Ive had the fortune of training with someone who is very expereienced and advised me, but been stubborn i had to learn it the hard way aswell.
Ive managed a sub 12hr nf100 in the passed, prior to that the longest training session was 45kms and the most kms i did in any one week was 100kms, and most importantly 4 weeks out from event day i did F*ck all but thats me, and im not saying its you, but i thought my expereince was worth sharing
Train smart and Rest of luck
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Adam
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« Reply #12 on: 08, March, 2011, 12:24:35 PM » |
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awesome, thanks for the feedback, I'll definitely have another look at your post when I've got the schedule in front of me!
cheers
Adam
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Adam
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« Reply #13 on: 15, March, 2011, 09:09:17 PM » |
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Update to training schedule and details for Saturdays run- http://blog.buymax.com.au/blog/groups/the-north-face-100/home/Due to the proximity of our longest run to the actual event, we've made a few preliminary changes to the Saturday schedule. We're going to extend the RUG run, possibly by a turn around Manly Dam or a run down to Little Manly Beach (or both) to make it 50-60km. So we can then pull Roseville to Hornsby down to a single trip. Comments welcome. From the link above you can download the stuff for this Saturdays run. You will need- 1. Course description 2. Map 1 3. Map 2 4. Bring your torch and spare batteries. Let me know if you are coming, we don't have any support yet, but if we do, we don't want to run out of water etc.... Start time 5PM Place cnr Yulong and Booralie Rd Terry Hills hit me up with any questions Adam PS. Paul, we really did take you seriously! Thanks again for your input. |
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John
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« Reply #14 on: 16, March, 2011, 12:21:24 PM » |
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Was pretty happy with how things went at 6ft track but my legs are still pretty smashed afterwards, probably more so than i thought they would be. I think im going to have start running again on saturday, have one more build with a max run of 5hours and 120km week 4 weeks out and then have a nice long taper and be fresh...Anyone else in this situation post 6ft ?
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